Comments on: A real life experience with Socialized Medicine http://samadhisoft.com/2011/06/15/a-real-life-experience-with-socialized-medicine/ Transcending our biological imperatives - Theories of future history - Eden lost Thu, 02 May 2013 22:12:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Gouri http://samadhisoft.com/2011/06/15/a-real-life-experience-with-socialized-medicine/comment-page-1/#comment-31271 Gouri Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:01:31 +0000 http://samadhisoft.com/?p=3536#comment-31271 Hi Dennis, I was curious to read this, but was short of time before. Even in India, all of this costs around 5 hundred thousand rupees--NZD=33 rupees. So I am happy you are in the right place. Well, God seemed to have made the choice for you, you were confused about where to stay, US or NZ. I hope Collette will always be there for you! Take care, Fondly, Gouri Hi Dennis,

I was curious to read this, but was short of time before. Even in India, all of this costs around 5 hundred thousand rupees–NZD=33 rupees. So I am happy you are in the right place.

Well, God seemed to have made the choice for you, you were confused about where to stay, US or NZ. I hope Collette will always be there for you!

Take care,
Fondly,
Gouri

]]> By: Graham http://samadhisoft.com/2011/06/15/a-real-life-experience-with-socialized-medicine/comment-page-1/#comment-31245 Graham Mon, 20 Jun 2011 23:25:03 +0000 http://samadhisoft.com/?p=3536#comment-31245 Hi again Dennis, I have to apologise for all the typos in my previous message. I was using my brother's computer and his key board is missing the letters on the keys and I'm not a typist. I would add that major reform is needed here to bring down malpractise insurance. I know of two good doctor friends who just quit practising because of the cost of insurance. One was having to pay $100,000/year in malpractise insurance. Now I wonder why the government won't put caps on malpractise claims, want to guess? Hi again Dennis, I have to apologise for all the typos in my previous message. I was using my brother’s computer and his key board is missing the letters on the keys and I’m not a typist.
I would add that major reform is needed here to bring down malpractise insurance. I know of two good doctor friends who just quit practising because of the cost of insurance. One was having to pay $100,000/year in malpractise insurance. Now I wonder why the government won’t put caps on malpractise claims, want to guess?

]]> By: Graham http://samadhisoft.com/2011/06/15/a-real-life-experience-with-socialized-medicine/comment-page-1/#comment-31227 Graham Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:56:03 +0000 http://samadhisoft.com/?p=3536#comment-31227 Hi Dennis, as a kiwi having lived in the US (PA) for the last 36 years, I've experienced both systems. My wife and I do not have health insurance. We cannot afford it. We have found over the last 3 -4 years in particular with both of us needing surgeries that we are able to negotiate with doctors and the medical profession and have found them incredibly helpful and generous. Hospitals are going out of business here and prices are increasing dramatically now because of Obamacare. As bad as it is here with costs I know we would be worse off if Obama's plan isn't repealed. We work with the head pharmicist at Geisinger - the biggest hospital/health system on the East coast and he sees and has to deal with the Obama changes - all for the worse. They all mean increased costs. I think NZ's system works because of several factors - the size of the country, the smaller community accountability and history. For sure one system cannot be exported to the other. Each country's history is such a factor. I'm not sure what the answer is here. With health insurance being able to buy across state lines would dtamatically dectease costs. Centralizing the system can only increase cots as we have seen here in other systems like education. Centalizing things always means more regulations, more bureacracy (think in terms of the simplicity of visiting a neighborhood doctor or clinic vs a huge hospital). Here professionals are paid to 'improve' things. You know what that means? Their jobs are dependent on finding things to 'improve' to 'safeguard' the public and there are always more measures (regulations) to come up with - hence increased costs. There is no end to it. I could go on and on from personal experience, but you get the idea. Graham Hi Dennis, as a kiwi having lived in the US (PA) for the last 36 years, I’ve experienced both systems. My wife and I do not have health insurance. We cannot afford it. We have found over the last 3 -4 years in particular with both of us needing surgeries that we are able to negotiate with doctors and the medical profession and have found them incredibly helpful and generous. Hospitals are going out of business here and prices are increasing dramatically now because of Obamacare. As bad as it is here with costs I know we would be worse off if Obama’s plan isn’t repealed. We work with the head pharmicist at Geisinger – the biggest hospital/health system on the East coast and he sees and has to deal with the Obama changes – all for the worse. They all mean increased costs. I think NZ’s system works because of several factors – the size of the country, the smaller community accountability and history. For sure one system cannot be exported to the other. Each country’s history is such a factor. I’m not sure what the answer is here. With health insurance being able to buy across state lines would dtamatically dectease costs. Centralizing the system can only increase cots as we have seen here in other systems like education. Centalizing things always means more regulations, more bureacracy (think in terms of the simplicity of visiting a neighborhood doctor or clinic vs a huge hospital). Here professionals are paid to ‘improve’ things. You know what that means? Their jobs are dependent on finding things to ‘improve’ to ‘safeguard’ the public and there are always more measures (regulations) to come up with – hence increased costs. There is no end to it. I could go on and on from personal experience, but you get the idea. Graham

]]> By: Mary Furnari http://samadhisoft.com/2011/06/15/a-real-life-experience-with-socialized-medicine/comment-page-1/#comment-31218 Mary Furnari Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:53:09 +0000 http://samadhisoft.com/?p=3536#comment-31218 Dennis, We are so happy to know you are ok and had such a postive experience in the New Zealand health system. The more I live here, the more I like the system. Having said that, I have heard horror stories of women who needed surgery after discovering breast cancer, and if they hadn't had private insurance the prognosis would not have been good because they would have had to wait months for the surgery! Also, I don't know about you but we do have auto insurance. I can't believe any responsible person wouldn't be carrying auto insurance if they driving in New Zealand. Dennis,

We are so happy to know you are ok and had such a postive experience in the New Zealand health system. The more I live here, the more I like the system. Having said that, I have heard horror stories of women who needed surgery after discovering breast cancer, and if they hadn’t had private insurance the prognosis would not have been good because they would have had to wait months for the surgery!

Also, I don’t know about you but we do have auto insurance. I can’t believe any responsible person wouldn’t be carrying auto insurance if they driving in New Zealand.

]]> By: Gus Hubbard http://samadhisoft.com/2011/06/15/a-real-life-experience-with-socialized-medicine/comment-page-1/#comment-31212 Gus Hubbard Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:04:46 +0000 http://samadhisoft.com/?p=3536#comment-31212 Well old son I'm glad that something worked out well in compensation for all the trauma of the shaky city you've been experiencing. We Kiwis can moan a bit at times about things, including our medical system, but it is utterly incredible to us that a country as affluent as US (perhaps less so now that the wide boys have screwed everybody's economies for their own greedy ends - and yes, we have them here too) cannot ensure that the health needs of their own people are met. People on the street because they can't afford medical treatment!! In a country that considers itself so highly. And the resistance to Obama trying to make changes! I sure as hell wouldn't want to live, or die, there. Good on yer mate. Glad to hear a story with a happy ending. And it sounds like you've crossed paths with a good woman - a Kiwi sheila presumably!! Well old son I’m glad that something worked out well in compensation for all the trauma of the shaky city you’ve been experiencing. We Kiwis can moan a bit at times about things, including our medical system, but it is utterly incredible to us that a country as affluent as US (perhaps less so now that the wide boys have screwed everybody’s economies for their own greedy ends – and yes, we have them here too) cannot ensure that the health needs of their own people are met. People on the street because they can’t afford medical treatment!! In a country that considers itself so highly. And the resistance to Obama trying to make changes! I sure as hell wouldn’t want to live, or die, there. Good on yer mate. Glad to hear a story with a happy ending. And it sounds like you’ve crossed paths with a good woman – a Kiwi sheila presumably!!

]]> By: Lisa Guest http://samadhisoft.com/2011/06/15/a-real-life-experience-with-socialized-medicine/comment-page-1/#comment-31210 Lisa Guest Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:38:09 +0000 http://samadhisoft.com/?p=3536#comment-31210 My dad had 4 stents over the years. Hundreds of thousands of dollars spent (not personally but through the crooked insurance systems)... He was just in the hospital for 2 weeks, 1 week with every test known to man taken, 2nd week for a spinal tap. After all that they still don't know what is wrong with him. More hundreds of thousands of dollars. Mind you... an ambulance ride here in the states is at least a grand and it isn't covered by insurance. You definitely put yourself in the right place. Wish I'd been so smart. My dad had 4 stents over the years. Hundreds of thousands of dollars spent (not personally but through the crooked insurance systems)… He was just in the hospital for 2 weeks, 1 week with every test known to man taken, 2nd week for a spinal tap. After all that they still don’t know what is wrong with him. More hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Mind you… an ambulance ride here in the states is at least a grand and it isn’t covered by insurance. You definitely put yourself in the right place. Wish I’d been so smart.

]]> By: Joel Johnson http://samadhisoft.com/2011/06/15/a-real-life-experience-with-socialized-medicine/comment-page-1/#comment-31209 Joel Johnson Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:08:58 +0000 http://samadhisoft.com/?p=3536#comment-31209 Dennis hope your well and smiling. What to do about corporate medicine in Amerika ?? Like so much of this culture medicine is subject to cost/expense ratios that don't exist anywhere else. The govt here supports labor movements that can be used to distort world events and steps on labor at home! Medical care is another of these areas of distortion(look at the transplant industry for instance?) Amerika makes promises it has no intention of keeping. My friends that moved to Montana call it ...We the sheeple... The dumbing of the education system and contolled media are symptoms of a sickness worse than heart attacks. Your right about a small illness causing poverty here. and the health care premiums keep going up but I dare not let them lapse for fear of one catastrophic event sending me to welfare lines or living under a bridge. Bro I am glad your well taken care of(medically and socially it sounds like) be well and keep writing always thought provoking! Tu' amigo Dennis hope your well and smiling. What to do about corporate medicine in Amerika ?? Like so much of this culture medicine is subject to cost/expense ratios that don’t exist anywhere else. The govt here supports labor movements that can be used to distort world events and steps on labor at home! Medical care is another of these areas of distortion(look at the transplant industry for instance?) Amerika makes promises it has no intention of keeping. My friends that moved to Montana call it …We the sheeple… The dumbing of the education system and contolled media are symptoms of a sickness worse than heart attacks. Your right about a small illness causing poverty here. and the health care premiums keep going up but I dare not let them lapse for fear of one catastrophic event sending me to welfare lines or living under a bridge. Bro I am glad your well taken care of(medically and socially it sounds like) be well and keep writing always thought provoking! Tu’ amigo

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